{"id":440,"date":"2017-08-31T17:19:39","date_gmt":"2017-08-31T15:19:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lopanner.com\/vda\/?page_id=440"},"modified":"2023-06-23T18:06:33","modified_gmt":"2023-06-23T16:06:33","slug":"testimonianze","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/lopanner.com\/vda\/testimonianze\/","title":{"rendered":"Testimonianze"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; fullwidth=&#8221;on&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.66&#8243; background_color=&#8221;#e02b20&#8243; global_module=&#8221;247&#8243; locked=&#8221;off&#8221;][et_pb_fullwidth_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/forno_home2.jpg&#8221; disabled_on=&#8221;on|on|&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.87&#8243; animation=&#8221;off&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;][\/et_pb_fullwidth_image][et_pb_fullwidth_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/forno_home.jpg&#8221; disabled_on=&#8221;||on&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.87&#8243; animation=&#8221;off&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;][\/et_pb_fullwidth_image][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.22&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;30px|0px|40px|0px&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.25&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;32px|0px|15px|0px&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.25&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;INSERIRE QUI TITOLO PAGINA&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.27.4&#8243; header_font_size=&#8221;40px&#8221; header_font_size_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; header_font_size_phone=&#8221;25px&#8221; header_font_size_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Testimonianze<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;3.25&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.25&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;TESTO E FOTO DELLA PAGINA&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.6.1&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;19&#8243; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<div id=\"attachment_441\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-441\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-441 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Tutto-il-paese-si-univa-in-un-lavoro-comune-duro-ed-allegro-allo-stesso-tempo-che-alla-fine-si-tramutava-in-festa-la-preparazione-del-pane-nero.-Lacqua-pura-di-montagna-e-la-segale-sono-300x233.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Tutto-il-paese-si-univa-in-un-lavoro-comune-duro-ed-allegro-allo-stesso-tempo-che-alla-fine-si-tramutava-in-festa-la-preparazione-del-pane-nero.-Lacqua-pura-di-montagna-e-la-segale-sono-300x233.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Tutto-il-paese-si-univa-in-un-lavoro-comune-duro-ed-allegro-allo-stesso-tempo-che-alla-fine-si-tramutava-in-festa-la-preparazione-del-pane-nero.-Lacqua-pura-di-montagna-e-la-segale-sono-768x595.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/Tutto-il-paese-si-univa-in-un-lavoro-comune-duro-ed-allegro-allo-stesso-tempo-che-alla-fine-si-tramutava-in-festa-la-preparazione-del-pane-nero.-Lacqua-pura-di-montagna-e-la-segale-sono.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-441\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aosta, 2015. Riccardo Santin<\/p><\/div><\/p>\n<p>\u00abOn commen\u00e7ait \u00e0 faire le pain noir vers la Saint-Martin, en prenant garde que la lune soit propice. On pr\u00e9parait la provision de pain (lo\u00a0gnal\u00e8i) pour toute l\u2019ann\u00e9e\u00bb.<br \/>Louis Quinson, Morgex 1989<\/p>\n<p>\u00abSi iniziava a cuocere il pane nero verso San Martino, badando che la luna fosse propizia. Si preparava la provvista di pane (lo\u00a0gnal\u00e8i) per tutto l\u2019anno\u00bb.<br \/>Louis Quinson, Morgex, 1989<\/p>\n<p>\u00abLe four est toujours l\u00e0\u00a0\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent, ils l\u2019ont r\u00e9am\u00e9nag\u00e9. Ils ont mis un four avec un thermom\u00e8tre\u2026seulement, il n\u2019y a plus de fourniers. Au lieu du dallage, ils ont pos\u00e9 des briques: c\u2019est plus pratique, les pains se dess\u00e8chent beaucoup plus rapidement. Avant, le four pouvait contenir cent vingt pain, \u00e0 pr\u00e9sent soixante-dix, quatre-vingts\u00bb.<br \/>Rosina Thomasset, Saint-Nicolas, 2015<\/p>\n<p>\u00abIl forno \u00e8 ancora funzionante: recentemente \u00e8 stato ristrutturato. \u00c8 stato dotato di un termometro\u2026 per\u00f2, non ci sono pi\u00f9 fornai. Al postro delle lastre di pietra, hanno posato delle piastrelle: \u00e8 pi\u00f9 pratico, i pani si asciugano molto pi\u00f9 velocemente. Prima, il forno poteva contenere centoventi pani, ora ne contiene settanta-ottanta\u00bb.<br \/>Rosina Thomasset, Saint-Nicolas, 2015<\/p>\n<p><strong>LE LEVAIN \u2013 IL LIEVITO<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00abPour pr\u00e9parer le levain, il faut de l\u2019exp\u00e9rience, donc c\u2019est toujours une femme d\u2019un certain \u00e2ge qui s\u2019en occupe.\u00bb<br \/>Piera Cheney,\u00a0Courmayeur, 1983<\/p>\n<p>\u00abCi vuole esperienza per preparare il lievito, dunque \u00e8 sempre una donna di una certa et\u00e0 ad occuparsene\u00bb.<br \/>Piera Cheney, Courmayeur, 1983<\/p>\n<p>\u00abIl y avait une ou deux familles qui conservaient le levain. Elles le pr\u00e9paraient \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9table, au chaud. On mettait de l\u2019eau et de la farine de seigle dans une bassine et on la laissait l\u00e0. Et cela levait. Quand le m\u00e9lange devenait aigre \u2013 on le sent d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e0 l\u2019odeur \u2013 on y rajoutait de la farine et on p\u00e9trissait\u00bb.<br \/>Rosina Thomasset, Saint-Nicolas, 2015<\/p>\n<p>\u00abUna famiglia o due conservava il lievito. Lo preparavano nella stalla, al caldo. Si metteva in un catino un po\u2019 d\u2019acqua con della farina di segale e si lasciava riposare. Cos\u00ec lievitava. Quando la poltiglia diventava acida \u2013 si sente gi\u00e0 dall\u2019odore \u2013 si aggiungeva la farina e si impastava\u00bb.<br \/>Rosina Thomasset, Saint-Nicolas, 2015<\/p>\n<p>\u00abOn pr\u00e9parait le levain un an pour l\u2019autre\u00bb.<br \/>Edmondo Lavanche, Etroubles, 1986<\/p>\n<p>\u00abSi preparava il lievito un anno per l\u2019altro\u00bb.<br \/>Edmondo Lavanche, Etroubles, 1986<\/p>\n<p>\u00abPour faire le pain, il fallait pr\u00e9alablement pr\u00e9parer le levain. On le faisait avec le houblon, apr\u00e8s l\u2019avoir cueilli, on le faisait tremper jusqu\u2019\u00e0 ce qu\u2019il devienne liquide comme une sauce d\u00e9li\u00e9e. On prenait une louche et on puisait trois ou quatre fois, en le m\u00ealant \u00e0 la p\u00e2te \u00e0 pain, puis, quand la p\u00e2te \u00e9tait bien ferment\u00e9e, on p\u00e9trissait.\u00bb<br \/>Ewald Obert, Ayas, 1970<\/p>\n<p>\u00abPrima di fare il pane, si doveva preparare il lievito. Si utilizzava il luppolo, lo si raccoglieva e lo si metteva a macerare finch\u00e9 non diventava liquido come una salsa. Con un mestolo si attingeva tre o quattro volte e si mischiava alla pasta di pane, poi, quando questa era ben fermentata, si impastava\u00bb.<br \/>Ewald Obert, Ayas, 1970<\/p>\n<p><strong>FAIRE LE PAIN &#8211; FARE IL PANE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00abOn calculait un quintal de seigle par fourn\u00e9e et une fourn\u00e9e par personne: cent pains, l\u2019\u00e9quivalent de la consommation annuelle d\u2019une personne.\u00bb<br \/>Modeste Petitjacques, Bionaz, 1983<\/p>\n<p>\u00abSi calcolava un quintale di farina di segale per infornata e un\u2019infornata a testa: cento pani, l\u2019equivalente del consumo annuo di una persona\u00bb.<br \/>Modeste Petitjacques, Bionaz, 1983<\/p>\n<p>\u00abOn verse dans le p\u00e9trin 20-25 kilo de farine de seigle, 80 kilos de farine de bl\u00e9, 40-45 litres d\u2019eau chaude, puis on ajoute six poign\u00e9es de sel et le levain bien dilu\u00e9 dans un seau d\u2019eau chaude. On p\u00e9trit bien le tout. Quand le p\u00e2ton est fait, on le couvre d\u2019un drap et d\u2019une couverture et on le laisse reposer deux heures, deux heures et demie. De temps en temps on allume une allumette sur la p\u00e2te: quand elle s\u2019\u00e9teint, c\u2019est pr\u00eat. C\u2019est le moment de brasser la p\u00e2te et de faire les pains. Il faut quatre, cinq personnes: une coupe les pains, les autres p\u00e9trissent, le dernier donne la forme. On doit encore faire un sillon ou une croix sur le pain \u00e0 l\u2019aide d\u2019un couteau. \u00c0 ce point le four devrait \u00eatre assez chaud et on enfourne les pains. On les laisse dans le four une heure environ. Avec une telle quantit\u00e9 de farine, on pr\u00e9pare cent, cent dix pains\u00bb.<br \/>Edmondo Lavanche, Etroubles, 1986<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_442\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-442\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-442 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/www.lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/11205539_1515200238802461_1150445973346776329_n-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/11205539_1515200238802461_1150445973346776329_n-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/11205539_1515200238802461_1150445973346776329_n-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/11205539_1515200238802461_1150445973346776329_n-510x382.jpg 510w, https:\/\/lopanner.com\/vda\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/11205539_1515200238802461_1150445973346776329_n.jpg 960w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-442\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Facebook, 2015. Riccardo Santin<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cSi versano nella madia 20-25 chili di farina di segale, 80 chili di farina di frumento, 40-45 litri di acqua calda, sei manciate di sale e il lievito precedentemente diluito in un secchio di acqua calda. Si impasta bene il tutto. Quando l\u2019impasto \u00e8 pronto, si copre con un lenzuolo e una coperta e si lascia riposare due ore, due ore e mezza. Ogni tanto si accende un fiammifero sull\u2019impasto: quando si spegne, la lievitazione \u00e8 ultimata. \u00c8 il momento di amalgamare la pasta e di formare i pani. Ci vogliono quattro, cinque persone: una taglia i pani, le altre impastano, l\u2019ultima d\u00e0 la forma. Si deve ancora incidere con il coltello un solco o una croce sui pani. A questo punto, il forno dovrebbe essere sufficientemente caldo, in tal caso si infornano i pani e si lasciano nel forno circa un\u2019ora. Con questa quantit\u00e0 di farina, si preparano cento, centoventi pani\u201d.<br \/>Edmondo Lavanche, Etroubles, 1986<\/p>\n<p><strong><br \/>CONSERVATION &#8211;\u00a0CONSERVAZIONE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;L&#8217;important, c&#8217;\u00e9tait qu&#8217;il ne soit pas humide, ainsi le pain pouvait durer des ann\u00e9es. Le pain \u00e9tait conserv\u00e9 dans la grange sur le br\u00e8nlo, c&#8217;est-\u00e0-dire sur les claies, pendant toute l&#8217;ann\u00e9e. Le probl\u00e8me c&#8217;\u00e9tait les oiseaux et aussi les souris qui, parfois, grimpaient le long des poutres et redescendaient le long des cordes, o\u00f9 \u00e9taient accroch\u00e9s les r\u00e2teliers. Alors, ils mettaient des parapluies en t\u00f4le.&#8221;<br \/>Enrico Croux, Courmayeur, 2011<\/p>\n<p>\u00abL\u2019importante era che non prendesse umidit\u00e0, quindi il pane durava anche per anni. Si conservava il pane nel fienile sui\u00a0br\u00e8nlo, cio\u00e8 sulle rastrelliere, per tutto l\u2019anno. Il problema erano gli uccelli e anche i topi che a volte si arrampicavano sulle travi e poi scendevano dalle corde dove venivano appese le rastrelliere. Cos\u00ec si mettevano degli ombrelli di lamiera.\u00bb<br \/>Enrico Croux, Courmayeur, 2011<\/p>\n<p><strong>CURIOSIT\u00c9S\u00a0\u2013 CURIOSIT\u00c0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Le pain aux pommes de terre<\/strong><br \/>\u00abNous \u00e9tions huit enfants, papa, maman et grand-p\u00e8re, donc onze en tout et nous faisions dix fourn\u00e9es de pain, dix quintaux de farine et, de temps en temps, pour le manger frais, on faisait aussi du pain avec des pommes de terre. On faisait cuire \u00e0 l\u2019eau les pommes de terre, on les \u00e9pluchait et apr\u00e8s on les portait au four, on les mettait dans le p\u00e9trin et on les pilait. Ensuite, apr\u00e8s on les emp\u00e2tait avec de la farine ordinaire pour faire le pain. Ces pains \u00e9taient extraordinaires \u00e0 manger frais\u00bb.<br \/>Edmondo Lavanche, Etroubles, 1986<\/p>\n<p><strong>Il pane alle patate<\/strong><br \/>\u00abEravamo otto bambini, pap\u00e0, mamma e il nonno, dunque undici in tutto e facevamo dieci infornate di pane, dieci quintali di farina e, ogni tanto, cuocevamo anche il pane alle patate, da consumare fresco. Si facevano bollire le patate, si sbucciavano e poi si portavano al forno, si versavano nella madia e si schiacciavano. In seguito, si impastavano normalmente con la farina. Questi pani, mangiati freschi, erano squisiti\u00bb.<br \/>Edmondo Lavanche, Etroubles, 1986<\/p>\n<p>\u00abAutrefois nous faisions le pain avec le seigle de nos champs, c\u2019\u00e9tait du pain exquis, on le hachait dans le bouillon de chamois: c\u2019\u00e9tait le plat du dimanche, o\u00f9 on mettait aussi beaucoup de fromage et on mangeait tout. C\u2019\u00e9tait meilleur que le pain que nous consommons aujourd\u2019hui, tout d\u2019abord nous \u00e9tions jeunes et notre app\u00e9tit \u00e9tait robuste! Nous avions l&#8217;habitude de faire le pain en novembre et il devait durer toute l\u2019ann\u00e9e. On calculait un quintal de seigle par fourn\u00e9e et une fourn\u00e9e par personne. Le premier qui chauffait le four employait des troncs, les suivants utilisaient des morceaux de bois longs d\u2019un m\u00e8tre (\u00e9talle). Quand le bois \u00e9tait carbonis\u00e9, on sortait le charbon \u00e0 l\u2019aide d\u2019un balai et puis avec un chiffon au bout d\u2019une longue perche on nettoyait bien le four. Au pain de la premi\u00e8re fourn\u00e9e on ajoutait des pommes de terre et de la farine de ma\u00efs: le pain \u00e9tait doux et on le consommait tout de suite, car apr\u00e8s quelques jours il devenait rance. Qu\u2019il \u00e9tait bon le pain aussit\u00f4t sorti du four!\u00bb<br \/>Modeste Petitjacques, Bionaz, 1983<\/p>\n<p>\u00abUna volta si faceva il pane con la segale dei nostri campi, era un pane squisito. In seguito, si sminuzzava nel brodo di camoscio \u2013 era il piatto della domenica in cui si aggiungeva il formaggio e si mangiava tutto. Era migliore del pane che consumiamo oggi, innanzitutto eravamo giovani e l\u2019appetito era robusto! Il pane si cuoceva a novembre e doveva durare per tutto l\u2019anno. Si calcolava un quintale di farina di segale a infornata e una infornata per persona. Chi scaldava il forno per primo usava dei tronchi, poi venivano impiegati pezzi di legna lunghi un metro (le\u00a0\u00e9talle). Quando la legna era carbonizzata, si tirava fuori il carbone dal forno con una scopa, poi con uno straccio a capo di una lunga pertica si puliva bene il forno. Al pane della prima infornata si aggiungevano patate e farina di mais: il pane risultava dolce e veniva consumato subito, perch\u00e9 dopo pochi giorni irrancidiva. Com\u2019era buono il pane appena estratto dal forno!\u00bb.<br \/>Modeste Petitjacques, Bionaz, 1983<\/p>\n<p>\u00abAutresfois, on faisait le pain noir comme on le fait encore aujourd\u2019hui. On employait de la farine de seigle, car on n\u2019avait pas assez d\u2019argent pour acheter du bl\u00e9. Alors, il \u00e9tait assez courant qu\u2019on m\u00e9lange les fruits de l\u2019alisier blanc, qui sont farineux, pour avoir un peu plus de pain \u00bb<br \/>Isoline Glassier, 1984<\/p>\n<p>\u00abIn passato, si faceva il pane nero come si fa ancora al giorno d\u2019oggi. Si usava la farina di segale, perch\u00e9 non c\u2019era abbastanza denaro per comprare il frumento. Allora c\u2019era l\u2019abitudine di mescolare all\u2019impasto i frutti del sorbo, che sono farinosi, per avere un po\u2019 pi\u00f9 di pane\u00bb.<br \/>Isoline Glassier, 1984<\/p>\n<p><strong>UN TEMPO LA VITA ERA DURA! \u2013 EUN COU L\u2019AY\u00d2N PROI MOT\u00c8N \u2013 AUTRESFOIS C\u2019\u00c9TAIT DUR!<\/strong><\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Patois<\/td>\n<td>Eun cou l\u2019ay\u00f2n proi mot\u00e8n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Fran\u00e7ais<\/td>\n<td>Autrefois la vie \u00e9tait difficile<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Italiano<\/td>\n<td>Un tempo la vita era dura<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Queste testimonianze, come le altre riportate nel sito, sono state riviste da Chuc Roger, Esposito Roberta, Fusinaz Daniel del Guichet Linguistique ( <a href=\"http:\/\/patoisvda.org\/gna\/index.cfm\/guichet-linguistique-patois-vallee-d-aoste-patois.html\">http:\/\/patoisvda.org\/gna\/index.cfm\/guichet-linguistique-patois-vallee-d-aoste-patois.html<\/a> ) e da Berthod Sandra e da Dondeynaz Patrizia.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; 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